Title

Jimmy Gurule was quoted in The Seattle Times article Follow the money new game plan in thwarting terrorism Concealing financial flows can be harder than avoiding surveillance of emails and phone calls on February 6, 2015

Document Type

News Article

Publication Date

2-6-2015

Abstract

Jimmy Gurule was quoted in The Seattle Times article Follow the money new game plan in thwarting terrorism Concealing financial flows can be harder than avoiding surveillance of emails and phone calls on February 6.

Jimmy Gurule remembers struggling for a seat at the table with his counterparts from U.S. intelligence agencies when he was an undersecretary of the Treasury a decade ago. In those days, the Treasury Department was a minor player in the world of three-letter spy agencies — CIA, NSA, DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency).

“It was hard for us to get an audience, it was hard for us to be invited to the meeting,” said Gurule, now a law professor at the University of Notre Dame in Indiana. “There were these intelligence meetings and we were like, ‘We want to have a seat at the table’ and they’d say, ‘Naw, what you’re doing isn’t that important.’  ”